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Packer - people's hero, or ruling class bastard?

Jura received the following email from "JL" in relation to our
advertising of the "Kerry Packer Dis-memorial" service on last Friday:

I
hope you got a kick out of disrupting Kerry Packer's final farewell. I
can understand your objection to the taxpayer having to pay for such a
service. I would imagine that you discourage people attending your
bookshop or meetings that are not working and therefore drawing the
dole? I have nothing against people getting the dole, unless they are
to lazy to get a job. You wouldn't serve anyone like that would you? I
can also imagine that you never attempt to lower your tax bill, why
would you? That would be stupid. I would imagine you give the
government contributions as you feel so generous.
 
The
guy gave a lot to Australia. Fair enough he was rich and I guess very
ruthless, but his companies employed a lot of people. Maybe the
alternative, in your view, is far better.
People go to say their farewells and you step in and make complete idiots of yoursleves. The guy is dead, let him be.
 
Can
you think of anyhting that Packer done that was selfless? Like fly a
disabled kid, some of his mates and their parents to Disneyland because
the kid did him a favour? Equip every ambulance in NSW with life saving
devices? Give millions of dollars to charities? I guess shit like that
don't count as he is rich.
 
Fair dinkum, pull your head in and get a life.

JL

We thought it was a bit strange, given that we didn't organise the
dismemorial, but in any case 2 Juran friends wrote
replies. We thought might be good to share them.

In response, SP wrote the following...

            Dear JL

Firstly,
let me sympathise with your position to the extent that a dead person
should be 'left to rest' and left to their friends and family.
 
But,
he was not just a private person going about his life - he was a very
public person and a very influential one. His impact on Oz was great -
and much for the worse, in my opinion. Free speech is an important
matter. For people to express their attitudes in a very small demo is a
very small matter, as compared to the richest man in Oz putting his
opinion onto the populace thru his many media outlets.
 
His
workers made him his fortune, not he - what did they get? - about a
0.5% return on their efforts. What did he get? about 10-15% - much to
the free tax situation.The workers of his enterprises could have run
all the facilities, and done a much better and fairer job too.
As for his tax matters. I have paid all my taxes for 30 years as a worker in Oz - no way to exempt myself - PAYE etc... He did everything to get out of it. Why commend that? How can you compare him cleaning out the loose change from the bottom of one of his pockets to put a few defribulators in ambulences to what ordinary people gave from meger savings to, say, the Tsunami Appeal? He was renown for putting $6mil on the tables of one casino to entertain himself - how can you compare?
In what way should his State funded funeral be supported? To keep Howard\'s govt on the good side of the Packer family? Ha!
No, the protest was\n valid, no tears for him from me. Just one last point - Jura did not organise the event - Jurans who went along, did so as individuals. So it is not really appropriate to send your comments to us. Others deserve the accolades much more than we do.
Yours.

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As
for his tax matters. I have paid all my taxes for 30 years as a worker
in Oz - no way to exempt myself - PAYE etc... He did everything to get
out of it. Why commend that? How can you compare him cleaning out the
loose change from the bottom of one of his pockets to put a few
defribulators in ambulences to what ordinary people gave from meger
savings to, say, the Tsunami Appeal? He was renown for putting $6mil on
the tables of one casino to entertain himself - how can you compare?
 
In what way should his State funded funeral be supported? To keep Howard's govt on the good side of the Packer family? Ha!
 
No,
the protest was valid, no tears for him from me. Just one last point -
Jura did not organise the event - Jurans who went along, did so as
individuals. So it is not really appropriate to send your comments to
us. Others deserve the accolades much more than we do.
Yours.

And SW also responded:

 

Dear JL,
Recently
Packer has been in the public eye, a matter of discussion. Let us not
put sentiment, traditions and authority above the common good. Surely
it is the well-being and happiness of humanity (and our environment)
that is the most important thing - and not to be subordinated to
sentiment, or anything else. Sentiment and tradition may further the
cause of the living, or it may have a neutral effect, but in the case
of the recent idolizing of Packer, it is clearly CONTRARY to the common
good.
 
What'smore,
it was a STATE funeral - i.e. a public event (and was funded by the
taxes and labour of workers, and proceeds from our/indigenous natural
resources, was it not?) - And therefore, Packer was all the more open
to public criticism.
 
As for the dole: first
of all, there are not enough jobs in Australia (and every capitalist
society). There are 7 people for every job vacancy. Why do the powers
that be allow this to continue? A better question would be, "why do the
powers that be create this situation?" Because their motive is profit,
increasing their profit - and when there is more demand for jobs, it
pulls down wages, thus reducing wage costs and so increasing the
profits that the rich and powerful can get. When we, the working class,
cooperate instead of compete against each other for jobs, then we
experience less stress, more friendship, more happiness, and HIGHER
wages.
Much work that is a contribution to society is not paid (e.g. volunteer work, caring for sick people at home, caring for children, cooking, cleaning, emotional support, political activism for our environment, for human rights, to improve working conditions, to reduce sexism and racism and so on). And much work that is destructive and no contribution to society IS paid ( e.g. most advertising (an industry that wastes trillions of dollars, deceiving us instead of informing us) - especially alcohol advertising, producing cigarettes, media that gossips and slanders, junk food, production of\n excessive and non-recycleable packaging, military and so on). As you can see, whether work is paid work or not is little sign of whether it is worthwhile or not. And even if (some) people do little in the way of seeking paid work, they are often doing invaluable unpaid work, contributing much to our society.
The dole is a concession that the working class won from the capitalist/ruling class in the struggle for equality - it ensures that we do not degenerate into a Victorian-era society again, with its widespread wretched poverty, children working in mines and factories and so on - as is still the case in many Third World nations. The working class fought for and won the dole as a kind of insurance, a safety net that ensures that when bosses fire workers, as they inevitably and regularly do (to downsize for increased profits for the capitalists, and to get rid of workers who stand up for their rights, and so\n intimidate the workforce into being docile), we all are safe from the worst kind of poverty and desperation that come with zero income.
If we do not protect the dole, then robberies and other desperate actions will increase in frequency (like 2PAC rapped "my stomach hurts, so I\'m looking for a purse to snatch") and unemployed people will once again desperately compete for jobs as a life and death issue, with many people being willing to work for a pittance, thus bringing down the wages and working conditions for ALL working people. ",1] ); //-->
 
Much
work that is a contribution to society is not paid (e.g. volunteer
work, caring for sick people at home, caring for children, cooking,
cleaning, emotional support, political activism for our environment,
for human rights, to improve working conditions, to reduce sexism and
racism and so on). And much work that is destructive and no
contribution to society IS paid ( e.g. most advertising (an industry
that wastes trillions of dollars, deceiving us instead of informing
us) - especially alcohol advertising, producing cigarettes, media that
gossips and slanders, junk food, production of excessive and
non-recycleable packaging, military and so on). As you can see, whether
work is paid work or not is little sign of whether it is worthwhile or
not. And even if (some) people do little in the way of seeking paid
work, they are often doing invaluable unpaid work, contributing much to
our society.
 
The
dole is a concession that the working class won from the
capitalist/ruling class in the struggle for equality - it ensures that
we do not degenerate into a Victorian-era society again, with its
widespread wretched poverty, children working in mines and
factories and so on - as is still the case in many Third World
nations. The working class fought for and won the dole as a kind of
insurance, a safety net that ensures that when bosses fire workers, as
they inevitably and regularly do (to downsize for increased profits for
the capitalists, and to get rid of workers who stand up for their
rights, and so intimidate the workforce into being docile), we all are
safe from the worst kind of poverty and desperation that come with zero
income.
 
If
we do not protect the dole, then robberies and other desperate actions
will increase in frequency (like 2PAC rapped "my stomach hurts, so I'm
looking for a purse to snatch") and unemployed people will once again
desperately compete for jobs as a life and death issue, with many
people being willing to work for a pittance, thus bringing down the
wages and working conditions for ALL working people.
If you want to see an example of a first world nation with less welfare (not even no welfare, which is far worse), then look at the USA. Society there is far more dangerous and violent there. The U.S. murder rate alone is over 11,000 per year - 10x that of Australia (about 80 per year). And one in six children is growing up in poverty over there.
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And you want some examples of no welfare? Take a look at the Third World. While the world produces luxuries and more and more electronic consumer items and other stuff that is soon thrown away, 30,000 more children are dying from poverty every day - that\'s 10x 9/11 EVERY SINGLE DAY. 700 million people going hungry, while there is more than enough food produced for everyone (but those 700 million people can\'t earn enough to afford that food, so the corporations allow it to rot in warehouses and silos, and dump it into the ocean).
And the rich and powerful have a pragmatic reason for continuing to give unemployed people dole money: they fear that if they don\'t, then people will rise up in riots and rebellions and maybe even revolution - as we did often in the early industrial times, when there was no dole.
Thankyou for reading
All power to\n the people!!!
Peace,
Corro from Jura PF

Anyone want to respond?


On 2/17/06, Zack Bruceski < stipe30@hotmail.com> wrote:
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If
you want to see an example of a first world nation with less welfare
(not even no welfare, which is far worse), then look at the USA.
Society there is far more dangerous and violent there. The U.S. murder
rate alone is over 11,000 per year - 10x that of Australia (about 80
per year). And one in six children is growing up in poverty over there.
 
And
you want some examples of no welfare? Take a look at the Third World.
While the world produces luxuries and more and more electronic consumer
items and other stuff that is soon thrown away, 30,000 more children
are dying from poverty every day - that's 10x 9/11 EVERY SINGLE DAY.
700 million people going hungry, while there is more than enough food
produced for everyone (but those 700 million people can't earn enough
to afford that food, so the corporations allow it to rot in warehouses
and silos, and dump it into the ocean).
 
And the rich
and powerful have a pragmatic reason for continuing to give unemployed
people dole money: they fear that if they don't, then people will rise
up in riots and rebellions and maybe even revolution - as we did often
in the early industrial times, when there was no dole.
 
Thankyou for reading 
All power to
the people!!!
Peace

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